Story From The Beginning
6-25-2005 By Randy Frushour - The Wikipedia has given "decade" queries a patch job by deciding that the first decade and its predecessor only have 9 years and I presuppose so to box or square off the anachronism for appearance' sake. I can see doing a box job on centuries as they did on a "decade" search result but not decades as it would have to include considerable dialog, forum or discussion as to a descriptive term if not an alpha-numeric reference such as "leap decade, - a decade that only has nine years because there was no year 0 and or because counting to ten is to cumbersome or difficult."
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I here would say that the "double meaning" for my page overall hypothesis is as because people think on two not one meaning of "terms," ie "sixties" (or seventies), the first - "the decade and the second - their 10 years of life from 61 to 70. The term "the teens" might simply apply both to the decade and to a persons years from 11 to 20 yrs. old as does the twenties and so on. But we are going to really have to dig in and use some group imagination to chat up the term Zeroes (O O's) as a decade if even not (for awhile) the years of ones life from 1 to 10, though I personally think the latter not so crucial and still by far here we have NO CONUNDRUM! O5.22.20O5 R Frushour
I vote 20 zeros for title and name of our first decade. Jim - Johnstown
"Zeros" search - Definition Found In E-Dictionary.Org For Decade Name Launch Next In Lexicon For This Third Millennium and 21st Century!
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Now off with a past and on with the new millennium as we celebrate arrival participating in composition, and so we began while turning up "neo" neolithic anachronism subjecting "two ancient years (the recent "second" one even belonging to the previous millennium)," symbolical "Zero AD"which in fact there/it was not, and the neoclassic year 2000AD. Classifying centuries such as the 19th or 20th century "describes the decades from the nineteen hundreds first being 19 00's or 19 O's (nineteen zeros, or O's, aughts or naughts), 19 10s, 19 20s, 19 30s, 19 40s, 19 50s, 19 60s, 19 70s, 19 80s & 19 90s" whereas the 21st century which describes the decades being the 20 '00s and so on and forth! Now that the 1990s belong in vernacular to the 20th century and while the year 2000 belongs to the 1990s, you next hurrdle across and see or say consistantly that year 2000 "is in and does belong to" the 20th century!"
Plausible?
Looking linear at Zero we see its numeral character in algebraic calculations of minus numbers but the whole other meaning vertically is an "alphabetized nouning" of Zero as a name and new numeric reference, which shows up "a natural" and as by definition quite probably is ideal and best whole number that exists as viewed the following way:
Twenty Zeros term compositions: Academy Awards' Sally Fields who won 2 Oscars, for 1979's "Norma Rae" and 1984's "Places In The Heart," such a term as "2000's" as in the previous sentences examples and correlates for this proposition as a year, does so in misinterpretation or misrepresentation and so there in a misrepresented fashion being that as a year 2000 - where we see Zeros ('00s) epochally and 20 '00s (Twenty Zeros) unmistakebly, here portrays our memorable termed years of the first decade.
First Decade, The Title "Twenty Zeros" Consider Double Meanings In The English Language
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Dear Randy,
I tried getting into your document but could only get to
first page, none of the highlighted subjects could be
opened. Why don't you just briefly explain it to me.
Thanks,
Anita Talbert
LA.Com
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Until Now
without community campaigning on a certain project of our "Twenty Zeros Decade" and also without prior personal awareness of the name polling or prior also to my "pre-announcement online" dated July 25, 2000 of our decade titled "Twenty Zeros" then, about the question of "what to name the decade" facing scholars now awkwardly booking the
new decade ahead by name, I titled a website the Twenty Zeros and included a number of companion sites. "The title will come clearer with use" experts
now say. Selecting a good name or title is next then our research edit and production assigned priority until Twenty Zeros is accepted by officials as nearly final in least repect as is the forum which brought us to it and for the effort and time involved.
...Because (at least according to some historians) the term "aughts" was mainly a retrospective term applied after the 1990's decade was over, and assuming that's true, there's no reason we should make the same mistake twice - says Writer Timothy Noah - Chatterbox/Slate.
...This notion of easy numbers, I say,
like zero, one or two here but posing a problem and stressing us out
somewhat and naturally so because counting begins with one which includes
the "numeral symbol of zero" but rather because we together
bog on the lack of a name with an alpha-numeric vernacular for such a decade increment for our decades numbers (alpha-numeric), we somehow don't take importantly linguistic implementing, supposing someone across town will come up with the riddle answer. Counting where, or in as such, when
counting is a tabulating amounts of time as per say, from one
date to another or the next or to the nearest date from ordinal code is just remotely connected to the real matter here as I view it first, as first counting and names are
clearly unrelated" together rationally speaking and though secondly as is January such so the first month of the year and with "a year" one-tenth of a decade and both having a name term incrementally as historically set out at the 4th day of creation in Genesis - yet neither as perfectly in alpha-numeric idiom and grammer as Twenty Zeros and so unmistakenly referenced under citation search. Third and for possibly
a new beginning to solving the riddle presently bogging us take the
words widely included by scholars and pollsters and put the
two together for a simple name and term like "Twenty Zeros". Now for us who associate numbers still with their names in vernacular I offer you this though only on a lighter note.
There are E X A C T L Y 20 zeros in our first decade if you care to count them which is the last connection I personally made to this title event and still only do see this count as coincidental.
Lastly the title "Twenty Hundreds" which also were nominated is lexicographically correct "as the title for our 21st Century" and though not "this first or any" decade. More confusion which still had to be sorted out was a poll finalist "the
Tens" which were nominated as a name for this decade
which though "off this list it too must go" now because it should and WILL undoubtedly be called the "Twenty Tens" correctly so in and for
the next decade of years during "2011AD through 2020AD". Count 10 numbers from smybolic zero as 1 (is 1) and get to and though "through 10" and then
count 10 more numbers and you'll arive precisely to decade "Twenties" at first day of 2021 though instead of 20. Now you still don't get it. Do you? Can you hear some folks in 60 or 70 years from now
saying, "yeah this is the decade of the "two thousand seventies".
Honestly, can you? Try "Twenty Seventies". Sounds much easier by a
long stretch or easy shot. I could stake my life on this that, a "full run of a completed examination" on
the name campaign of our "Twenty Zeros" will trip an audible alarm
before your investigative trial is complete. There are too many indicators pointing
there. I might add to be careful at first when writing or conving Twenty Zeros as the 20
zeros ('0s) problem of still being a number and ONLY a
number (or vice-versa, a name) gets in the way until we clear our new "vernacular way" from here. It's not yet an assigned number let alone "a name" until it's appointed so by lexicographers or linguists or expert forums such as Britanicca or the IRS. A day will
come when Twenty-Zeros
will be the name of a number but that day may
not arive for another thousand years
when society then chould say "well
that's easy, we'll commentary "Twenty Zeros" AND NOW too "Thirty-Zeros" numbers and as the vernacular to
their name, just why didn't they accomplish it a thousand years ago when they indeed HAD
20 zeros in their decade"?
Don't we realize that we are in 20
years from now going to simply say "Twenty-Twenties" or would we say
"Two-Thousand Twenties"? No way sorry but nope! We may just cite both. Every decade title has 2 words which are numbers and while are just words, but for the while philologists may linguistically choose correct lexicon structuring their paragraphs more interpretively.
Is it any different for our decade here. Welcome comments and
questions to
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9.14.2000
Concerning a letter above on this page
updated, revised and restated! What we are attempting to do first is assign "words and/or a term to 2 successive numerical characters" or to a number (in this case, the number two-thousands) as in the vernacular use
other than a term as
"the 2000's.
There has not been a previous need to do so at any time in modern history. "Twenty Zero Zero" or even Twenty Zero would
represent the year 2000 and can be spoken "Zero Zero" or "Year Zero" for short which is common in a casual manor and so on to "Twenty Zero One" or
casually "Zero
One" etc. The term use of zeros in the title "Twenty Zeros" comes as needed and is consistant with that area of prefixed numbers located between and including 2001 and 2010
thus signifying an importance of the 3 last characters and not just the last. Between (19)31 & 40 is the 30's
or term "the thirties" if you look at the
numbers and name. Correctly I recommend that whether or not you lexicographically prefer individual vernacular herein that when structuring content as in above previous line we should be uncritical of finding where decade dates are a year off as upon either single entries such "as 1941 over 1940" and preume it is understood instead now as we passed the critical hurrdle.
The assignment provides a name term to the words of this charactered numeral. For convenience just one word would do better however two is necessary to
complete a
meaning. Every other decade has held 2 words in their addressed title thus conformity here would be the norm again still. Welcome to the decade of
the
"Twenty Zeros" or can be spelled "Twenty-Zeros" or "Twenty Zeroes," 20 '00s, Twenty '00s or 20 zeros or too pronounced Twenty 'Os. A space only is required to enter .
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Dear Gossip Columnist at LA.Com,
Here is what I'm posting at message boards today and suffice to guess or assume I'm getting somebody looking at our story. Maybe your staff have ideas for my direction at this interval. In time no doubt the search engines will spell everything and in fact I'm only one photo shot away from the finish line there with Google.Com search-phrase "decade name", "first decade" or "decade title". Yahoo profiles the topic if you only search "first decade. "More later with that Inbox.
October 15, 2000
Well Anita T it is sure pleasant to get some mail from "The Column" and I hope things are fine there in LA. I'll be back soon. We have only 2 1/2 months before the millennium countdown. Our story is intensifying as great multiples, (Genesis) expositions, and idiom anachronism come into reductionary display of this enigma about our "first decades new name" and including the "missing year zero" perplexity. For you and viewers I hope this picture is clearer than it is to me but even just today I thought of another aspect which gave my personal perception luminescence. Though rather simple and seemingly insignificant to the whole picture, this does so present a new set of questions to be asked to solve a mystery of the "Here In The Third Millennium Quandary", a syndrome which coincide to such real issues of "giving or birthing titles," as well depicting historical timeas nearly so for the record if not yet such as fact, as here "ages and numbering" are incomplete and so too unconnected by the alphanumeric code and then too consistantly factoring entries popularly with numerical factors to the first year, decade, or centuries of the millennium with years "Zero One", Zero Two" (casual or short for "Twenty Zero Two), "Zero Three" and so on and so forth through "Twenty Ten."
This is a facinating discovery no less for me and presumably too for everyone with any literary interest as even officials gave up on this project, now appearing to me as faltering. I suggest that I somehow in working around words and with individual exegesis and because of the new "0-1-10-100-1,000-2000" numeric aspect to vernacular and also as there is no presedence for this new year and decade repetitive actions propelled me toward much of this topic. While I was busy "sourcing dictionary" to names for DotComs which I enjoy, I decided to steer this project on course by going online. It's a sort of hobby, watching increased value-line with dot coms by Wall Street analysts. I comfortably one day latched on to this name and thoughtfully guessed that I was probably first, or maybe the only individual to do so, so I began the in depth search. "Well now it's time to put some serious beliefs down on this" I then thought and "I'm nearly the perfect facilitator for the Twenty Zeros first decade name campaign as I don't possess any more than a outright copyright. I commented in an earlier dated post that civilization in 3000AD would more than likely go ahead and name the decade of years "3001Ad through 3010Ad" the "Thirty Zeros" and as continuation each and every 10th year of all decades that "do appear" as now belongiong to its succeeding decade(s), repositioned in lexicons with the preceeding decade .
This all gets back to my premise that we today have another question though insignificant prepositionally, of do we consider again this year (2000AD) "as belongs", to the Zeros or the Nineties. I suggest either way the zeros clearly only run up until midnite new years eve 2010 and morning of 2011. I would comment that this year should be invited to the decade while not assume that it can belong so at least not until EVERYONE gets on this issue. We might concede first that it all began the "first morning" of 0001AD or midnite of the last day of the year 12-31-0001BC. At midnight the calendar rolled (right across) "over zero" to 0001AD thus eliminating our most sought after year which by and with exception could have been the only year in all of history to rightly belonged to two or both decades, centuries and millenniums".
Upon completion of our (LA.Com Columnist) email conference on the "Twenty Zeros Decade story name" and
subsequently while in route to interviewing a TV talk show
host in Ft Wayne, Indiana I counted the zeros ('0s) in the 10 years of our decade
and "is it or is it not
coincidental that there ARE EXACTLY "20 Zeros" in OUR DECADE. I am therefore
broadening
the
campaign to appeal for the title acceptances of the "Ten Zeros"
(years 1001ad - 1010ad) and decade "Thirty Zeros" (years 3001ad - 3010ad)
as we here in the "Twenty Zeros" are more abled representatives of
this entire count of the "20 '00s,"
as then in 1000AD publicans had not 10 '0s in their "Ten Zeros" first decade and also they will not have thirty zeros (30 '0s) a thousand years from now again but a still
faltering "20 '0s (twenty zeros) count episode" of the "continuating" in another and further on 1,000 year "search for a title for "The Zeros
first decade" for centuries and
millenniums.
On some final note, the V E R Y first post millennium-decade BC/AD was the
the "Zeros or Unies (see Zebs comments in T.O.C)" with the first year then
being simply "Zero One" or "Millennium Year Zero One etc."
Plain "Year Zero" or "Zero Year" did
NOT EXSIST" unless before Genesis 1 vs. 14! While the first ten decades of the "very first" century AD could be and or could have been grammatically used, the first decade of the Second Century AD all the way through 9 Centuries and "the 9th Century-AD" (singling out first decades, only of each Century, except of and for the actual entire first century) were uneasily identified in a vernacular as poor information were available and present. The year 1001AD begins the first decade and first century of the second millennium and is the Ten Zeros. At last, it's not difficult to say "Twenty" as 1 of the 2 words of a "sought for two word title for our decade." It even gets rather easy when we countdown from (21) "the 21st" Century to the 1st Century AD, for example 800 AD. The 1st decade would be the Eight Zeros etc.
Now since as the Aughts and Naughts were the clear 1999 poll winners followed by the Zeros, for naming the first decade, it may as simply well be a given that "Zeros" for a title and titling the 2nd word of our first decade. What I see as difficult is titling the First Decade of the Second Century the "One Zeros". Should we? Do we have to?
Right On Time
Randy Frushour
Publisher@LA.Com
Viewer Zeb Writes: "I want to promote my Unies for the years 2000 - 2009 first decade"
AND ... "Well then in your arguement how do they get away with using the nineties?" I
mean you said 2000 is included in the nineties (which i don't believe it is)
but they (meaning the entire US) used the nineties... View Zebs entire commentary in the column TOC at left of page.
Surely while Dave O's comment is analogous, we should note "periods of time under one year are plainly referred to as months, weeks, days, hours, minutes and seconds."
Dave O Writes:
Hi Randy,
This is Dave O, the author of the
dictionary-by-phone extension on Tellme. I did not write the
definition of "twenties" as referring to the
period of time from 1920 to 1929, namely that
it should instead refer to 1921 through 1930
If I'm reading you correctly, you're basing
this on the fact that there was no zero year, so
the
first decade in the AD time era was year 1 to
year 10. The second was year 11 to year 20.
The
third was year 21 to year 30, and that is the
period you would call the "twenties", is that
correct?
You're right when you surmise that I am only
providing an interface to a dictionary and
that I
do not control the dictionary's content. It
is in
fact Merriam Webster's online dictionary,
found
at M-W.Com. You should probably
direct your concerns to them.
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